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Hi guys, Hello ExaySro
Imo there could be a bit more activity on this server... I think most of you can relate.
When i started on exay i think there were a lot more players active and i kinda want the old times back
So i thought a lot about this and how it could work to find new players or activate some from the "older" ones.
I see people coming on the server they are like (after a week or so): "how to get d14 or at least some jc for vip"
Imo the way of getting - earn - jc is way to hard... When you imagine you can do the daily quests and get 2jc and 3lc... It will take almost 20 days to get ViP
And at the current value of D14 set, at least (!) 45 days to get a set without blues/%...
Even then, you are not that highly motivated to do fgw with a low d14 set and a d13 weapon,... It takes forever to get throu a 2 star fgw and you need to be really lucky to get a commander or serennes...
Of course it should take some time to get a decent set, but its sooooooo hard without donating...
And
At some point, you are not really interested anymore in slaying ongs to get 2jc... Maybe if you could raise the amount of jc you get at ongs, it would be more attracrive (even for richer ppl) to do this quest. It definitly changes the flow of money on the server.
further i think a reward for reborning should be enabled - to make it more attracrive to do it - it could be like "every 5 reborn you will get 20 jc"
Or "every 10 reborn you will rewarded by a XXX"
I dont think 20jc for 5 reborns is to much for people to do mass characters and farm jc with it.
This are just some examples to make the server more attractive to new players, a bigger discussion here is highly appreciated
A short answer from navmesh or another admin is very appreciated as welll
Ps.: i dont want to offend anyone here, i just want to help and if you think im totally wrong about something, just let me know about it
Kind regards
Telefonbuch
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There could be more players, yes but if you earn jcs faster D14 weapons , vips and other things will cost more. So it wont change anything if you earn 10 jc at ong quest, then vip will cost 80jc.
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08-20-2015, 16:36 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2015, 16:41 PM by Telefonbuch.)
Dont really agree with that, for sure the price will raise, but not the 5 times as much you earn from the ong quest... and if you get more out of your daily, people will buy more D14 Armor´s from NPC and pimp it... -> More Items->lower prices
As well, the current prices are waaaaay to high... an easy D14+15 weapon costs 500jc ---> 250 daily (250!!!!)
Ofc silkroad was always a free market, so you can do your own prices, but keep in mind the prices are like the prices from months ago (where were more players and items) and they even raised...
At the moment the prices for high + should go down since noone can afford them, but when you ask for lower price they just *lol bb* xD
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Ofc if you have a rare weapon you wont sell it for a low price ^^
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ofc every1 want more activity on the server, but that's the thing, People have to do items 14dg on the hard way, as every1 did.
Now if Navmesh would change a little thing about earning jc or doing money, would it be fair with the old players? which did their items on the hard way?
Reward for reborn, really? that's a idea? i mean, just strong ppl should be able to reborn(even if there are a lot of people with 40rbs) And that players with 40rbs which did their rbs with money? is it fair?
Maybe you play on this server since it started(I don`t know), but in thinking you're still a newbie ^^
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08-20-2015, 22:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2015, 22:45 PM by Telefonbuch.)
@jokerul
Dude, i started this thread for opinions to make the Server more attracrive for new Players, not for you to tell me things i know.
so you would like to have a server which ppl who did the hard way only? then i have to tell you exay will be full of inactive accounts!
i saw a lot players quitting exay because it is to boring... when you have 40 rb's theres not much more to achieve. maybe a high + weapon/set but thats it right? (maybe to do a hell amount of money and raise the prices until noone can afford anything anymore)
if you want a successful server with a lot of players you have to change things, even if 5% of "old" players dont like it! it dont have to be major things, but step by step...
there may is a solution which fits for everyone, thats all about i want to talk in this thread.
(i did the hard way too, and it was very hard especially when you are not experienced in mbot and play 22 rb's wirhout it)
and btw, which of my sentences makes you feel im a newbie? its my opinion you dont have to share it tho...
give us a better opportunity to find/motivate new players to join the server and stay here!
without real money (silk) you either have d13 for 1 year or you are the luckiest guy ever in fgw and alchemy!
i didnt said to super reborn for free btw
I understand people who think its unfair to change things like this, i totally do, but do you really want a server with low activity just that things are fair for everyone?
btw ftw is so much fun to see noone attacking your fortress, gives you the feeling you are sooooooo pro and you achieved something with your 40 rb (NOT)
only strong people should do reborn?
LOL, just bot 2 days -> reborn and you are stronger then before. (But still without any money or items)
only strong people should do reborn?
LOL, just bot 2 days -> reborn and you are stronger then before. (But still without any money or items)
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I would like some new things, but this "step by step" can easy turn the balance(which is very hard to get) one way or another. I`m not saying I`m against all your ideas, but some of them could be a bit wrong.
The "sentence" where you spwak like a newbie don`t really exist. I just have this opinion after reading your thread. I know , i want things to change too, but is harder than this, If you do something in this side, you have do do another thing in the other side, so all will be fair for any1, as it is right now.
In FW things will be hard to change, i mean, if you are a new guy on this server, and you finaly get 14dg, won`t you go to the guild who have a fortress? there they will rise you, will teach you the things you need on exay.(and if they have 50 players in guild, ofc they will find someone weak or inactive to bann him and to make a spot for the new guy who want to play 24/7) In this way, how many strong guilds can be? more than 4? I mean, if you have a guild and you would like to have a fortress, for your own, would you atack a harder fortress(like jangan/hotan), won`t you try to get bandit fortress? then again, you will recruit people who see you have a fortress so you're strong. Anyway guilds without a fortress disband faster than you think.(You just joined the guild with the Jangan Fortress, me , on the other hand i try to change the things and to make some fun, having my own guild and atacking others)
You didn`t said super reborn for free, but you said reward for reborning.. do i got any reward for doing 35 rbs? with this reward for reborns, the super reborns will be more easy to do, ofc.
Sorry for any english mistake, we are not all from U.S.A or UK. ^^
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ah okay, i got your point, and i do agree with most of what you've said
understandable to join a guild who already has a fortress for a fresh d14 equiped guy, but at the time i started there were about 10 strong guilds...
hotan fortress got attacked by 2 or more guilds and it was so much fun, i just want these times back you know
btw - again - i joined puder's guild because hes a very good friend of mine and i know him since i started on exay. we played together for so long and most of the time in the same guild so.... didnt want to offended you in that case. (my english struggles too bit i hope you can understand it )
im hoping we can find these "steps" in this thread to make the server popular. IMO its a VERY frriendly server with awesome gm's which do their best to entertain and help everyone. There are lots of other private servers which are so bad, non active gm, no updates, no events and so on...
so can we focus on solutions? or suggestions? anything - even its just a little thing - we may can give the suggestion to navmesh and he will decide if its an option or not
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nice, I`d like to see some suggestions every day on forums. people shouldn`t be angry if i don`t agree all ideas or i don`t think it could be a good change for the server.
Some things can be changed, i agree ^^
There could be a problem in earning jc as newbie, cuz most of players leave after first week, when they see how hard it is, but for me, this earning jc hard was the fun of the game.. after 35rbs, the fun is gone.
Got to be a way to make the server more atractive from the begin...
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08-21-2015, 13:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2015, 13:26 PM by shadows.)
Maybe the free vote system could change abit (vote 50 silk per 12 hours).
I know that in the event time, navmesh changes the free vote, but I must be one of the few that gave up voting 12 hours each time to just get 20 silk, and I never use money on the net. It takes atleast 10 days to get 400 silk by voting (if you do it every 12 hour) . A little silk change could get some new players to stay.
This is just my opinion, I'm not complaining.
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