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Make Debuffs great again
#1
Hello guys,

Well I noticed it long ago and after the last big update with high weapons as well as making Bicheon/Cleric and Force more powerful than it was before. I came to the conclusion that I'm gonna do this thread to ask Nav to make things better again.

Bicheon got a skill which has 100% knock back rate well, let's have a look on:

Pacheon with Arrow Combo the highest skill for bower to get some distance between them and the ennemy got ONLY 34% knock back probability so 66% less than Bicheon.

Now we have a look on Heuksal as well Ghost Spear - Full Heaven got on Full skilled ONLY 55% knock back probability which is also 45% less than Bicheon.

That are facts and to BALANCE China chars you really have to nerf bicheon's knock back power up their combos maybe a little bit and reduce maybe the knock down damage also a bit so that they can kill someone with Combos instead of spamming knock downs, that the players who play Pure STR Blader or Hyb Int Sword or what ever with Bicheon has some other Attacks than only Knock Down spam. I see only Player who are Blader or Sword who spam knock downs during PvP or Job or even Fortress. When you ask them they only say well we would use our Combo Skills but no DmG that's why we don't use them.

Now we take a look on Force the most skill used during any kind of fighting is Cure Therapy - Heaven. I will list the following describtion from Cure Therapy bellow:

Weakening Series REDUCE (235 Effect)
Weakening Seriesprobability 70% REDUCE (13 level)
Restriction Seriesprobability 70% REDUCE (13 level)
Curse Seriesprobability 70% REDUCE (13 level)

Well I'll try to explain this. ALL DEBUFFS China or Euro are (except for 3 skills) all level 12 so you won't have any chance to debuff any1 who is using this kind of skill. So in other Words there will come the time where nobody will do PvP against someone with Force because you can't debuff them and as already said in another Thread some builds like (Warlock/Rouge ; Warlock/Warrior ; Force/Glavie ; Force/Blader) need those debuffs to kill someone.

Now we have a look at Cleric there's also some kind of Cure named God's Word. Well I'll list it like I did it with Cure Therapy:

Weakening Series REDUCE (268 Effect)
Restriction Series REDUCE (268 Effect)
Curse Series REDUCE (268 Effect)
Weakening Seriesprobability 60% REDUCE (13 level)
Restriction Seriesprobability 60% REDUCE (13 level)
Curse Seriesprobability 60% REDUCE (13 level)

So God's Word is a bit weaker in Seriesprobability as Cure Therapy but is still OP because Force Debuffs don't go trough it and also no warlock debuffs only with much luck. So we have again the same "shit" as with Cure.

It seems like this Thread is nearly full of Flame (some maybe call it that way), but for me it isn't it's just a remake what was perfect back then and with that update all gone wrong and noone really play those builds.
It is unfair to Warlock or Force chars in my Eyes so let's make Debuffs from Force and Warlock great again. Maybe some ppl are against such a thing like this but in my eyes it will balance the races somehow. Also if some ppl now say well that's rubbish it's nice how it is but let me tell you no. MANY old Player left the server because of that and I bet than much of them will come back if everything is going to be like the old days. So NAV PLEASE change this and let's meet all ingame and have fun again like the old days Wink
That was all I had to say and I really hope much ppl are the same opinion that I am and will push this Thread Wink
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#2
As much as i agree with this, i also disagree, and the reason is this.

Making warlock and Force debuffs great again, think about of the non force/cleric users who doesn't have access to Cure Therapy or Gods Word, cuz then we ( including me ) won't stand a chance vs all the debuffs, and even now at this state of Warlock/Force debuffs ))
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#3
yeah that's true gosu but even your skills like bleed which you can do with heuksal Wink will come back against force players and you also do more dmg Wink
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